Karthik Ram (@_inundata)

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August 24th, 2011

@jasonpriem Your alt-metrics manifesto and associated tags: pinboard.in/url:734c2cf6a5…

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@jasonpriem Before I forget. Why didn't you also mine Pinboard in addition to delicious? Most academics I know use that now.

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@jasonpriem Nice talk by the way. Glad you shared the slides ahead of time.

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@jasonpriem Sure thing. I'd be interested in seeing more of it though.

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@mrgunn True. But excel is not going to disappear anytime soon since it is widely used to organize/enter raw data.

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@cboettig makes a plug for @rOpenSci at Come talk to us! ropensci.org

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MT @ekansa: Paul Uhlir (codata.org/codata02/bios/…): we've outsourced sci communication too long and lost public good value of science

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@jasonpriem @cboettig Yes there are. But my campus vpn is too slow here. One example: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21490936

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@figshare @jasonpriem It's citwaitions. slide 9/31 here -> bit.ly/nNkMNh

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. @jasonpriem Our use of citation use and impact does not reflect actual use. Academic social networking tools offer more insight

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Like ESA Data papers MT “@cboettig: John Kunze: We must save the data and the processing. a connected problem

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carlystrasser NSF thinking about requiring data citation in ref lists for proposals. GREAT idea!

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@wilbanks Nice talking with you before you left. Hope we can chat some more either tomorrow or another time.

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mrgunn Mendeley is working on adding dataset as a type as well

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We will if it counts towards tenure MT “@cboettig: Evidence that younger researchers are more protective of their data...

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Elizabeth Moss: When data are shared more formally, they get used 2-3 times more (results from social sciences)

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Mooney: Only 27% of journals examined in study addressed data citation. Most were science journals.

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carlystrasser .@researchremix "Citation of data only matters if it is valued." Again... need credit for data to matter for tenure, advancement

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Hailey Mooney staff.lib.msu.edu/mooneyh/ on data citations in context

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. @researchremix As more datasets become citable, fewer papers will be cited as proxy which is the current practice.

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. @researchremix Research community should lobby to open up reference lists, just like abstracts

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. @researchremix data citation is a new use case for wos. Not currently set up to track data. Scopus does but incomplete

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. @researchremix Are the scientists who share data the same ones who reuse? Difficult to answer w/o tracking data reuse

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. @researchremix speaking on data citation challenges/opportunities. Slides here: slideshare.net/hpiwowar/data-…

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@cboettig @wilbanks Someone should map the use of @xkcd in conference talks.

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Open Network Biology opennetworkbiology.com open-access journal links models to datasets.

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Data needs persistent DOIs MT “@ekansa: @wilbanks "Notes usefulness of persistent URLs. Back to how the Web plays in all of this.”

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researchremix Following along at home? I'm up next, my slides are here: slideshare.net/hpiwowar/data-…

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"We're in a very different world than we inherited from print" @wilbanks

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sorcha_ni jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia… Library of Babel short story @wilbanks

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ekansa @wilbanks Need to leave enough time to let people to learn new skills, behaviors. Good point: (Web) data skills need to grow

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cboettig Need evolving system - @wilbanks cites this early attack on HTML and the resulting beautiful fix in css: bit.ly/qTnc2R

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ekansa @wilbanks concept of data is really fluid. How do you cite data based on Facebook (violation of terms of service)

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Our capacity to generate data with outpace our capacity to store it by 2x @wilbanks

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What is derivative in the context of data? Even open data community has no consensus @wilbanks

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Current citation practices have all evolved from the print world. Needs change @wilbanks

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once things are named, you have to be able to search for it. Google helps but doesn't get you underlying data. @wilbanks

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John Wilbanks speaking about data citations

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TAC_NISO Agenda for the Annual summer meeting: Data & the Scholarly Record, the Changing Landscape Agenda is hebit.ly/nWVtoW3rWr

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Interesting to see many laptop screens open to tweetdeck

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Keynote by John Wilbanks about to begin at

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